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Dr.Jones · Jul 09, 2008, 03:22 AM // 03:22

/notsigned.

Anets interpretation of Advanced magic is what you see with the asuran. i wish we knew more about them like why did they decide to live undergound they dont realy have any back story besideds the murssat and rata sum

Stockholm · Jul 09, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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They are small (but really nice presents come in small pakets) and they will bit the enemy in the knees, leave them be.

aaje vhanli · Jul 09, 2008, 05:15 AM // 05:15

In addition, we haven't seen what they are doing with the Asuran race yet so why would you argue to "redesign" them when you have yet to see how cool they may look with the new graphics capabilities of GW2.

Konig Des Todes · Jul 09, 2008, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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Originally Posted by joshuarodger

umm... i think you answered your own question.

/signed for changing the look of them. the very first thing i thought when i saw them was "is that supposed to be lilo and stitch" i don't have a problem with them not looking human but they definitely look too cartoonish.

keep the attitude though.

Looking like Stitch is not enough to say they were based off of it. And as I said, even comments on concept art for the Asuras say they are based off of Goblins and the like, not stitch.

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Originally Posted by aaje vhanli

I thought they looked more like Gremlins than Stitch. Then again, Stitch is a rip-off of Gremlins... Perhaps I'm from the wrong generation to be stuck on these similarities.

Your not in the wrong generation, Stitch isn't popular enough, or old enough, to be worth ripping off from.

pamelf · Jul 09, 2008, 06:27 AM // 06:27

/notsigned. I love them. I always felt that they were a wholly original game character.

MirkoTeran · Jul 09, 2008, 07:24 AM // 07:24

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When I first saw them I thought ANet was joking with adding something like that into the game.
IMO, they need to completely redesign the whole race or (even better) just remove them.

ilipol · Jul 09, 2008, 01:04 PM // 13:04

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I say leave them be ... unless you have a better idea for a race that fits their size.

romeus petrus · Jul 09, 2008, 02:58 PM // 14:58

/signed

I still can't figure out why the decided to make them look like toons out of Disney Land.

Shadowhaze · Jul 09, 2008, 03:13 PM // 15:13

At first I thought they were stupid, but now I think they're cute. lol.

I say leave them as they are.

the Puppeteer · Jul 09, 2008, 03:37 PM // 15:37

maybe just a little taller in GW - just not to be viewed as garden gnomes...

MithranArkanere · Jul 09, 2008, 04:39 PM // 16:39

1. What? Cute? Have you ever seen an Asura during battle?
That angry face? All those teeth? Their sharp claws?
They were an underground race. Small size, big eyes, grayish skin, big ears.
That fits underground life.

2. NO. They are engineers, inventors, scientists. Magic is a science too. Is not something that you dvelop just by try and failure, if you study something, you can develop technology from it.
During GW, we already have machinery such as trebuchets and bombards.
After 200 years, they would have developed technology enough to have fireguns, cannons and even steam-like magic-powered machines.
You cannot stop progress.

Zahr Dalsk · Jul 09, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

I have a few things to say. First, how do you connect Asuras to Stitch? Sure the look similar, but if you look at all the concept art for Asuras and the comments on them, it is clearly stated that they were based loosely off of goblins and the like.

They're as clearly ripped off of Stitch as the Zerg Hydralisk was blatantly ripped off of the Tyranid Ravener. It's not a coincidence. They could easily pass as the same species. Maybe they are the same species, just like the Zerg are apparently one of the Tyranid Hive Fleets.

zelgadissan · Jul 09, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

Wow, I looked at this thread expecting to see a flame fest. I'm disappointed in you Guru.

Anyway on topic, I don't see any problems with the Asura as is, except for maybe the voices. Oola - well, really just female Asurans in general - makes me want to kill things.

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Kanyatta · Jul 09, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

The OP's points are all valid, but despite all the stereotypical parts of the Asura, that's what makes them all the more lovable.

/notsigned

Yes, Anet did rip the Asura design off of Stitch from Lilo & Stitch, there's really no point trying to dispute that.

Konig Des Todes · Jul 09, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

I find it funny how people go to the most recent idea of pop culture and say "THAT'S WHERE THEY GOT IT! OMGZ!!1!1!!" Instead of looking at older pop culture, which is where I, and apparently very few others, would believe they got it from.

For the sake of argument on this, I'll quote Jaime Jones from the PCGamer GW issue on one of the concepts for the Asura.

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Originally Posted by Jaime Jones

The Asura were originally concieved as a creepier, more primitive race. Here, I painted them living in holes in a cave and rowing a boat across an underground stream.

I don't think "Stitch" could be considered "primitive," let alone a "cave dweller." Not to mention, the original concept only holds resembelance through the big eyes and big ears, and the big eyes are common for cave dwelling species. *as is the white skin* I can see why people can look at stitch, then at an asura, and say there are similarities, but when you look at other fantasy creatures, that are much older, such as Gremlins and Goblins, they look more similar to those, just an advance version (and obviously one of the old ideas for the Asura were to be primitive). That at least makes me think they were more based off of Gremlins and Goblins, and were turned into high-tech creatures (and based off of an not an alien).

I find it funny how people are so hardcore about how the Asura "were based off of Stitch" when that movie was rather crappy. I wonder how old these people are, as it seems the older fantasy ideas are starting to wear off on "young people" (and I am considered a young person, luckily, I like fantasy so I know some of the older stuff).

Snow Bunny · Jul 09, 2008, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Asura are pretty awesome tbh.

If you've looked at them, they have little razor teeth.

My first char in Gw2 will be an asuran, and it will ownnnnnnnnn

MithranArkanere · Jul 09, 2008, 07:48 PM // 19:48

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

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I find it funny how people are so hardcore about how the Asura "were based off of Stitch" when that movie was rather crappy. I wonder how old these people are, as it seems the older fantasy ideas are starting to wear off on "young people" (and I am considered a young person, luckily, I like fantasy so I know some of the older stuff).

Yeah! On top of that, Stich is not cute. Is the style of drawings that makes him look cuter!
If you remember the movies and series, most people find stitch disgusting and weird, with sharp claws, fangs and such.

Arkantos · Jul 09, 2008, 07:52 PM // 19:52

They're little genius gremlins. More importantly, they're unique. They're much better then say dwarves, gnomes and elves.

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Kanyatta · Jul 09, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

Your not in the wrong generation, Stitch isn't popular enough, or old enough, to be worth ripping off from.

Yeah, a Disney movie that made over $100 million at the box office and spawned its own mini-series that's been running for almost 5 years is definitely not popular at all.

Richardt · Jul 09, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by Kinn

2 - Make their technology more mystical and arcane - more appropriate to a world based around magic and ancient myth, and move away from using modern sci-fi jargon and maths/computing buzzwords.

I won't comment on point 1 as Azazel and Mithran have already pointed out where the concept for the Asura came from.

As for point 2, you have to keep in mind that in Tyria magic is their physics-it's how their world operates. Thus a society of engineers and scientists are bound to create advanced devices based off of magic, and create scientific words for it. I think it adds a nice touch to the Asurans, so I'm voting for keeping them as is.